Ivy ([info]ivy_rat) wrote,

Why I'm looking forward to ComicCon this year

There's lots of talk about ComicCon these days in all the social media I follow, and it's been on my mind a lot these days.

Con is still five weeks away, but everyone is gearing up for it. The schedule that they put out is being figured out now. I know this because Scott is being contacted for panels. It's not finalized yet. I know this because when Scott was asked to moderate two panels that turned out to be scheduled at the same time, the Powers That Be were able to change the time of one of the panels so that Scott could do both.

So far, Scott has been tagged to moderate/host/whatever the Spotlight panels for Kurt Busiek and Larry Marder (who are two of our closest friends, both were at Scott's party, both are special guests this year, and both asked Scott if he would do the honors). James Sturm (who is also a friend and also a special guest this year) has tagged Scott for a panel where the two of them will talk about teaching comics. Scott's also been asked to be on a tribute panel for Will Eisner (who was also a friend and who is sorely missed). Scott will be busy this year. I think this is more panels that he's been on in a long time, and amusingly, none of them are about him.

And the three special guests that he's going to be talking to are all kibitzers on his new book, so yet another connection.

This is not what I want to talk about though.

There has been a lot of talk about Con moving to another location. It seems more and more likely these days, and it saddens me. Lot of reasons. I like San Diego. I like the excuse of visiting, and I've been doing Con for so many years I have all sorts of traditions and favorite places and things, I never get out there any other time, so I would miss them all. I agree that the con has gotten too big for the venue, and it hurts that so many people get turned away. On the other hand, there are too many people there already. Making it bigger means that there will be even more people, and wow, I can't even imagine that. (to give you a comparison, I live in a city that is considered a "big city" by the FBI, that means there are over 100,000 people who live here. I just checked, the population of our city is 2 thousand more than the attendance at ComicCon last year. Wow.)

But the saddest part of Con moving (if it does), in my opinion is that then it loses any pretense that it is about anything other than Hollywood. Why is it thinking moving? Because it needs to get bigger to accommodate all the fans of the TV and Movie properties that they are hawking. Why does it want to move to Anaheim or Los Angeles? because then it will be closer to Hollywood, and they don't have to transport all the names that they want there, it will be an easy drive, no need for hotels, etc.

These are all facts. There's nothing I can do about it.

But.

I've decided that I'm not going to take it anymore. So I have made a promise to myself. I am not advocating that everyone do this, I know many of you going will not understand me at all, but that's ok. I'm actually looking forward to Con more this year than I have for several years.

My promise? This year I am only going to panels that have to do with comics. I've chosen to interpret that fairly broadly, in that I will go to a panel on a movie that is based on a comic book (Scott Pilgrim I'm talking to you!), and I would allow myself to go to a panel about a comic that is based on a movie (though, I honestly can't think of one that I would want to see). But movies and tv shows, even ones that I like? I will not be there this year.

Torchwood, is a show that I adore. I have gone to the Torchwood and Dr Who panels ever year that they've been at Con. I will not be seeing them this year. I'm ok with that. I'm still not recovered from the last season, and I'm not all that interested in the new one that looks like it will happen. I will be sad if it turns out that it is a very cool panel, but the one last year left a very bad taste in my mouth, so I'm figuring I'll be ok. And this way I don't have to wait on a huge line to get into a theatre that I will then wait in all day for the panel to start so that I can be in the front row (Yes, I have been in the front row of the Torchwood panel every year it's been at Con, call me crazy).

Ok, if Neil is at Con, which, as far as I know, he's not planning on being, and he calls me up and says, "Ivy, I'm doing this panel about *fill in some NOT comics project here*, please come see me", I'd probably brake my rule for that. But since that's not likely to happen, I think I'm pretty safe.

I predict that this year, my experience at Con will be very different from the "average" con goer who is only going to see the famous actors and clips of upcoming media. I will have shorter lines (sadly), which means I'll likely get into more things. If I want to ask questions I'll have a better chance of doing so, and I'll get to see bunches of panels that I've always wanted to see, but didn't because I was too busy waiting in line to get into Ballroom 20 or Hall H.

Think I'll spend more time in Artists Alley, Small Press Pavilion and the online area (who's name I can't remember).

And of course, I will blog about it all.

It's still five weeks away, but I'm getting excited about it now!

Oh, and tonight, at midnight we are seeing Toy Story 3! How awesome is that?!

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[info]orcaarrow

June 18 2010, 03:13:27 UTC 1 year ago

Good luck with Comic Con! Sadly I have never been and I'm not sure if I'm going in the foreseeable future.

[info]ivy_rat

June 18 2010, 04:37:01 UTC 1 year ago

Thanks! It really is a madhouse, but an awful lot of fun. (Scott thinks my plan is like going back in time to ComicCon circa 1988)

If you ever make it, we will likely be there. :-)

[info]querldox

June 18 2010, 06:02:49 UTC 1 year ago

Honestly, I'm not convinced there is a better location than SD for it at the current size. Yes, Anaheim/LA/Vegas could potentially be larger, but the hotel situation for LA would be worse (yes, more hotels overall, but look at what's within walking distance) and borderline for Anaheim (two *real* close hotels, maybe another couple in walking distance). Vegas probably better, although if they go with the LVCC, only one hotel next door, others connected by monorail or possible shuttles (don't even think of walking to others in July/August). Not sure if the Sands Convention Center's big enough or not.

But none of the three other proposed sites has what the Gaslamp's become; convenient restaurants of all price ranges and multiple cuisines, a fixed area where you'll see other folk you know, or just an area you can walk in outside the convention center. LA's trying, but is nowhere near there (and their rep is flat out lying in public statements about how big the Gaslamp is, which makes me discount his statements about the Downtown LA area)

And some folk think you'd get less Hollywood in LA/Anaheim, since SD feels like a mini-vacation while those locales seem like work.

But I've not done many, if any, Hollywood panels in several years due to the hassle of getting in for individual panels in H and 20. Heck, getting into the panels in 6 and its hallways are getting difficult, and with the one-way corridors you can't easily panel-hop during the panels.

Still, I will try to make at least one of Mark Evanier's voice talent panels, just because they're funny as heck.

On the other hand, the new "line in the sand" for what's considered an acceptable Hollywood panel for con now seems to be "Has cast that used to be on a sf/fantasy/genre tv show or movie"; see the Hawaii Five-O remake, which apparently is appearing due to Daniel Dae Kim and Grace Park being part of the cast.

[info]ivy_rat

June 18 2010, 18:36:09 UTC 1 year ago

I agree with you totally, there is no better place than San Diego. One of the things that makes the con so great is that you are at the con even when you are not in the building. The whole town is about the geeks. You bump into people everywhere. Everything is contained and within walking distance, and there's something for everyone, regardless of what economic status. It really is perfect.

And Horton Plaza is right out of a sf movie.

I've been to all the other places and none of them have the insular and diverse atmosphere that SD has.

I don't buy the idea that we would get less Hollywood if it were closer. Many of the prominent people get to con right before their panel and leave right after.

Funny you mentioned Evanier's voice panels because I was trying to figure out if I would be allowed to see one or not under my rules. Because they are indeed funny as heck

I saw panels last year that I have no clue what constituted their appearance at con other than they said, "hey I'll come."

[info]brush_rat

June 18 2010, 06:09:44 UTC 1 year ago

I've been doing that for a couple years now, and I'm happy to not be one of those people complaining about how they couldn't get into some giant ballroom to see some movie people because people were camping there all day.

I've got several trips planned this summer, so the kids and I are limiting our visit to just Sunday this year.

[info]ivy_rat

June 18 2010, 23:02:08 UTC 1 year ago

I'm really looking forward to the freedom of not spending a day in a big room just to see one or two things late in the day. (I think every year I've had to sit through something I didn't really want to see, just so that I could hold my seat. *ug*)

Sunday is a good day to go with kids as it is usually "kids day". Though, if the times remain as they are now scheduled, you won't be seeing any of Scott's panels as I think that's the day he doesn't have any.

[info]vnend

June 18 2010, 14:13:51 UTC 1 year ago


Good resolution! And making it 'related to comics and friends' is a very reasonable modification. IMHO (And I have never made it to comicon, being on the wrong side of the continent and all).

Enjoy Toy Story 3! I look forward to hearing about it and seeing it myself.

[info]ivy_rat

June 18 2010, 23:06:32 UTC 1 year ago

Thank you! The con is worth going to if you ever have the opportunity. It is not like anything else in the world. Pretty awesome despite all the problems.

Toy Story 3 was wonderful! Pixar has yet to disappoint in any way, and I think the Toy Story saga might be my favorite. So very good. (I'll write up my review of it as soon as I can)

[info]robynneblume

June 18 2010, 16:55:35 UTC 1 year ago

I think that's a great idea. In fact, I might do the same. Except... I don't think I could bear sitting out of a Dr. Who panel. (Torchwood's never been that big a deal to me, so I wouldn't mind missing it so much.) I think I went to one panel in Hall H last year, and remembered why I'd avoided that room entirely for the previous few years. Ballroom 20 has been my downfall recently. It would be nice to get away from it.

[info]ivy_rat

June 18 2010, 23:12:40 UTC 1 year ago

I know, it's hard to skip the Who stuff. The last Torchwood panel really left a bad taste in my mouth though, so I'm thinking I can spend my day more wisely than waiting in long lines to get in and then sitting through panels I'm not interested in. If you decided to go to the Whoverse panels I'll ask you what I missed and live vicariously through you. ;-)

You know that you are welcome to spend the weekend avoiding the big rooms with me. I will be going to all sorts of cool panels and having a really great time enjoying the art of comics!

[info]proftempus

June 19 2010, 14:19:10 UTC 1 year ago

There is a Dr. Who comic book, so it would still fit in with the parameters of the requirements to attend the panel.

[info]ivy_rat

June 19 2010, 16:06:42 UTC 1 year ago

Haha. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or bad.

[info]robynneblume

June 19 2010, 16:41:44 UTC 1 year ago

Maybe I'll be able to convince the Dr. Who people to just talk about the comics so I can enjoy their panel guilt-free.

[info]ivy_rat

June 19 2010, 18:30:59 UTC 1 year ago

Great idea! Seriously, Robynne, you should hang with me this year. We could have an awesome "all comics all the time" sort of week!

[info]ainu_laire

June 18 2010, 17:34:54 UTC 1 year ago

I'm really looking forward to the Comic Con, too. I love looking at all the artists and getting tips from them.

I don't really bother with Hall H, myself. I went one day last year, but some things are just too nuts. I can't think of anything that would take me to Hall H this year.

I REALLY hope they don't move it. I love downtown San Diego, it's gorgeous and perfect for the con.. Considering how much revenue they earn from the convention, I imagine the city will be doing everything in their power to keep it there.

Oh! And how was Toy Story 3?

[info]ivy_rat

June 19 2010, 00:43:53 UTC 1 year ago

I went to Hall H once last year, it took me HOURS to get in, and when I did, I had missed the panel I had wanted to see most, and saw the next one which I had wanted to see as well. It was ok. Missing the panel I missed was sad, but the movies that they talked about eventually came out and I either saw them or I didn't. I would have been too far away to really see anyone on stage other than on the screen and if I really wanted to I'm sure I could have Youtubed the interview parts. In the end, what did I really miss? I'm thinking nothing. I'll be ok avoiding the hall this year, the wait to get in there was the worst part of the con for me.

I hope they don't move it as well. I think none of the three contenders (because Las Vegas is still in the running as well) would work nearly as well as San Diego. I guess we should enjoy the time we have there, just in case.

Toy Story 3 was amazing! I will do a proper write up of it either later today or tomorrow. :-)

[info]inkista_

June 21 2010, 17:55:28 UTC 1 year ago

See, what you need to do is follow Mark Evanier's schedule. :) Going only to panels that are MCed by Mark Evanier is like going to Comic-Con ca. 1987. Except, maybe for the number of people who cram into the room to watch the Quick Draw.

I've told you before; I tell you again: go to the Quick Draw.

The media stuff, it's fun, but it's fleeting, and you can read twenty blog entries about it afterwards, these days. Once I realized thefutoncritic.com was probably going to cover every tv panel I wasn't, I relaxed a bit more about missing out on them. For me (now that theatrical moving going is out), probably, the only media panel I have to get to, if there is one, is if HBO is going to present A Game of Thrones.

[info]ivy_rat

June 21 2010, 18:44:46 UTC 1 year ago

It was mostly because of you, and conversations that we had last year that made me decide this, btw.

I have a feeling that if I keep to my promise (and I fully intend to) I might spend a bunch of time in Evanier let panels, and Scott (my Scott) let panels.

Quick Draw is on my list. Totally because of you. Might even try to get there early to make sure I have a good seat.

I'm thinking of trying to catch the trivia panel if it happens again this year. I always hear about it, but I've yet to go.

I'm figuring that I'll get all my TV news from you, since that's what usually happens anyway. Most Cons, the shows and movies that I come away wanting to see are the ones you've told me about. And then it usually take me another year or two before I actually get to see them... ;-)

[info]inkista_

June 22 2010, 01:05:27 UTC 1 year ago

Mwuah-ha-ha. I have untold influence! Galactic domination is within my gra-->koff<. Sorry. Choking on the hubris there. All better.

I just think that anybody who's going to Comic-Con should experience the Quick Draw at least once, especially as it's one of the few panels you won't find at any other SF con out there (ok, except Wondercon, because Mark & Sergio both go to that one, too). If you have to miss the Quick Draw, then the Mark & Sergio Show, Scott Shaw!'s Oddball Comics, or one of the two Cartoon Voice Actors panels can sorta sub, but it's not exactly the same.

And one should go to the Trivia contest at least once to cheer on either the Black Ink Irregulars or the Purple Pros, depending on how many friends one has on either team. :) Since you know both tyg and Kurt Busiek, it's gonna be tough for you!

[info]ivy_rat

June 22 2010, 19:36:57 UTC 1 year ago

(Ok, first, I was looking at my reply and there are TWO places in a row where I wrote the word "let" when I meant "led" I can't even fathom why I did that. I can't blame spell check cause I wrote it on my computer. Maybe I was mostly asleep when I wrote that?)

Anyway...

What I saw of Quick Draw last year was great and I had decided then that I was going to catch the whole panel this year! Scott Shaw!'s Oddball Comics is also on my list of panels I always mean to go to but never get to. I'm not sure if my going to only comics related panels would let me go to one of the Cartoon Voice Actors panels (fine line there), but I did catch much of one last year as it was right after the Quick Draw (though, admittedly, Maggie and I were talking through more of it than we should have been).

I figured since Kurt was a special guest this year, chances are good that he'll be trivia-ing. I'll be very interested to see which team I know more people on. I must confess, I've know Kurt far longer and better than tyg, so if Kurt is on the pro team, I'd be duty bound to root for them. If he's not, then we shall see where my loyalties lie.

Are you coming in on Wednesday? You could help me go through the schedule and figure out which things I shouldn't miss and which ones you can join me for. If not Wednesday, then maybe you could come to one of the Scott-Interviews-A-Friend-Of-Ours-Who-Is-Also-A-Guest-This-Year Panels on Thursday and meet up with me there?

[info]inkista_

June 22 2010, 20:10:23 UTC 1 year ago

I do typos all the time like that.

And yes, you definitely have to root for Kurt. My thing is that I was invited to join [I declined--I'm not at that level] the first year rec.arts.comics fielded a team (which eventually [de]volved into the Blank Ink Irregulars), and (obviously) I know tyg better than Kurt. I tend to skip the trivia contest, hmmm... maybe I should rethink, too.

Yes, I'll be there Wednesday, but I have no idea what kind of shape I'll be in or how long I'm planning on staying. There's also some question whether purchasing parking in advance actually reserves me a space or not, but (fingers crossed) things may be easier this year if I can park at the convention center with pre-paid passes, vs. parking at Fashion Valley and taking the trolley in. [grin].

I'm really hoping the iPhone App for Comic-Con has been upgraded this year so we can filter the schedule for just what we want to attend.... it was really clear they ran out of time last year to implement that.

[info]ivy_rat

June 22 2010, 22:34:21 UTC 1 year ago

Aww, come to the Trivia panel with me, we'll have fun! We can each root for opposite sides, and we'll make so much noise they'll put us on stage as their mascots...

The iPhone App was potentially awesome. It didn't live up to potential, but I'm hoping it will this year. I found myself checking it far more often than I checked paper info, even with all its faults.

You have my number, right? If you're up to it, text me when you get there on Wednesday and we'll see if we can meet up. I have no idea when we are getting there, but since Scott needs to be there Thursday morning, I'm pretty sure we'll be there Wednesday night.

[info]inkista_

June 23 2010, 04:22:22 UTC 1 year ago

Yeah, but if Trivia is opposite the Glee panel (Sunday. 1:30-2:30. Ballroom 20. Isn't is obscene that I already know that?)...

I have your number. You have my number. And you remember how I am texting-handicapped to an iPodTouch on Wi-fi? I'm afraid I've done nothing about that since.... :) Just call me a luddite.

[info]ivy_rat

June 28 2010, 04:16:38 UTC 1 year ago

Calling you a luddite is very amusing to me.

I will have to miss the Glee panel. It is not comics, after all. ;-)

Soon. We will each other soon. This makes me happy.
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